This was an amazing conversation today. I have a huge amount of respect for Norm and everyone involved in the mental health field. Thanks for focusing on this topic. It was very educational.
This discussion makes me so happy to finally hear about some really positive things happening around this topic that touches every human life in some way or another. Thank you all for this.
So glad to see this. 20 years ago when I was trying to fight the managed care system, with a special interest in managed mental health care (Mary, we are fellow alums from Derner), I tried to get across to those who would listen, that all our social problems are mental health problems - from crime, to homelessness, to child abuse, to cruelty and greed, and these days I will add that the terrible politics of today reflects enormous mental health problems in our nation.
Hello Caroline , Glad to see your return to the chats/posts. Enjoy watching today’s show . There was a large mental health community in chats today, some very riveting posts Norm has begun quite a journey here .
Very interesting discussion and I find the programs mentioned very encouraging for people suffering from mental illness and their families. I live in Chicago and never knew until I took a class at NAMI that some officers on the CPD are specially trained to deal with people with mental illnesses. Sometimes those with a mental illness, especially those who are non-compliant with medication and/or going through a manic phase can become a danger to themselves or others on occasion. Family members are afraid to contact police because they don’t want their loved one to be arrested or mistreated by the police. In Chicago, if you call the police, you need to specifically request officers trained to deal with the mentally ill. They are trained to de-escalate the situation and are patient and compassionate. I’ve needed to do this on several occasions. Using this resource was the difference between hospitalization and arrest. I wish every police department had specialized training for officers to deal with the mentally ill.
What an incredibly informative and uplifting conversation. To read about training programs for police officers and prison wardens etc. which helps them to be more humane and empathetic when dealing with people who are mentally ill (yes, brain disease is a more apt word); and to read that these programs are successful and are being practiced in cities like Miami and Portland -- this gives me hope. Maybe it's not all lost. Thank you, Mary.
After listening & watching the podcast I am very grateful for this context I am an Adult Foster Care Recipient and I'm going to Mass State House to speak about it. It makes me see how "minimal" my problems are. Far less than what's going on in The Legal System and How People aren't getting what they need there. I Realize now how Important Adult Foster Care Can Be to Help Stop Crime driven by Poverty and Rehabilitate Other Issues. I Have Quite A Bit More context. Thank you for this newsletter Mary
and then how will you get the Democrats to be on the offense? Take a look at Dick Durbin's committee who can't get Biden's judge appointments through his committee? Try calling him, no one is answering the phone and you can't leave a message. So, what now?
This was an amazing conversation today. I have a huge amount of respect for Norm and everyone involved in the mental health field. Thanks for focusing on this topic. It was very educational.
This discussion makes me so happy to finally hear about some really positive things happening around this topic that touches every human life in some way or another. Thank you all for this.
So glad to see this. 20 years ago when I was trying to fight the managed care system, with a special interest in managed mental health care (Mary, we are fellow alums from Derner), I tried to get across to those who would listen, that all our social problems are mental health problems - from crime, to homelessness, to child abuse, to cruelty and greed, and these days I will add that the terrible politics of today reflects enormous mental health problems in our nation.
When Mary starts feeling optimistic, IT'S A THUNDERBOLT OF HOPE!!
Thank you for this conversation today, Mary
Urgently needed, Thank you.
And yes, mental illness IS physical illness!
And yes, we are a punitive and vengeful society, and I don't know why.
Such a much needed discussion. Thanks so much to all of you for bringing attention to it and particularly to Norm for all of his efforts at reform.
Norm Ornstein seems like a really fantastic human with a lot to offer.
Thank you, Mary. I will watch your show later.
Hello Caroline , Glad to see your return to the chats/posts. Enjoy watching today’s show . There was a large mental health community in chats today, some very riveting posts Norm has begun quite a journey here .
Mary I shared 6 times with Twitter thx for your podcast It gave me context on Mental Health Issues
Very interesting discussion and I find the programs mentioned very encouraging for people suffering from mental illness and their families. I live in Chicago and never knew until I took a class at NAMI that some officers on the CPD are specially trained to deal with people with mental illnesses. Sometimes those with a mental illness, especially those who are non-compliant with medication and/or going through a manic phase can become a danger to themselves or others on occasion. Family members are afraid to contact police because they don’t want their loved one to be arrested or mistreated by the police. In Chicago, if you call the police, you need to specifically request officers trained to deal with the mentally ill. They are trained to de-escalate the situation and are patient and compassionate. I’ve needed to do this on several occasions. Using this resource was the difference between hospitalization and arrest. I wish every police department had specialized training for officers to deal with the mentally ill.
What an incredibly informative and uplifting conversation. To read about training programs for police officers and prison wardens etc. which helps them to be more humane and empathetic when dealing with people who are mentally ill (yes, brain disease is a more apt word); and to read that these programs are successful and are being practiced in cities like Miami and Portland -- this gives me hope. Maybe it's not all lost. Thank you, Mary.
After listening & watching the podcast I am very grateful for this context I am an Adult Foster Care Recipient and I'm going to Mass State House to speak about it. It makes me see how "minimal" my problems are. Far less than what's going on in The Legal System and How People aren't getting what they need there. I Realize now how Important Adult Foster Care Can Be to Help Stop Crime driven by Poverty and Rehabilitate Other Issues. I Have Quite A Bit More context. Thank you for this newsletter Mary
This was a truly great discussion. The three of you just nailed it -- very grateful for your efforts.
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and then how will you get the Democrats to be on the offense? Take a look at Dick Durbin's committee who can't get Biden's judge appointments through his committee? Try calling him, no one is answering the phone and you can't leave a message. So, what now?