Thanks, Donna. I'm in Orono. Power still out, and I just tested positive for covid. First time in four years! Still better off than many people in Maine right now.
If by some miracle SCOTUS does the right thing and rules that Trump can be kept off the ballot, are there enough states that are likely to keep him off that he won’t be able to get to 270 in the Electoral College?
It's the 14th Amendment at play here. It says that "officials who take an oath to support the Constitution are banned from future office if they 'engaged in insurrection' ", and he obviously DID.
Imo, the Supreme Court will not uphold this Colorado Supreme Court decision. I do not let myself feel hopeful for actions I know in my head will not happen. I keep my heart out of the equations…..especially pertaining to Trump.
One story about the Donald’s removal from Colorado’s ballot alluded to an appeal to the US Supreme Court . I am not a Constitutional scholar , but my recollection is that if a state’s ballot concerns are not mentioned SPECIFICALLY in the US Constitution then the US Supreme Court has no say in the matter . Am I correct?
Yes, John, you are correct. Amendment 10 Specifically states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. " It was by this Amendment the Supreme Court was Constitutionally able to overturn Roe v Wade. It is also why I think 'Citizens United' is Unconstitutional.
THIS t***p- dominated SCOTUS will find a way around it. The Grotesque Gold-tone Grifter™ always finds a way to flout the law. But I hope you're correct.💙
Agree that USSC cannot rewrite CO election law. Besides It would offend the GOP insistence on state’s rights on matters like abortion. They are hoisted by their own petard. And I continue, ala Henny Penny, to scream that every state should bring this action and boot him off the ballot. Petitions circulating in NH now.
Mary, this will get sent to SCOTUS. What are the chances they’ll let this stand or throw it out? I’m in CO so deliriously happy-for the moment. Please ask this question. 😘🙏🏻
Congratulations! It must be awesome to live in a State you don't have to be ashamed of. I'm an elderly 5th Generation Texan and used to be proud of it, but we peaked under Ann Richards and right now I'd gladly emigrate to a more enlightened State if I had the means.
I’m in the red state just above you (Oklahoma), am 80 yrs and feel the same way! We do have a fairly large number of Dems in my area but we haven’t been able to vote out our Rep ..... yet!
Remember when we were young and full of hope and thought that people were generally getting smarter? I miss that feeling. I live in Austin, a place Ram Dass once described as 'an oasis'. (I describe it as an Oasis of BLUE in a state that's hopelessly dumb-ass Red.)
If the states are given responsibility for running the elections, what standing does SCOTUS have to reverse a state Supreme court's decision? Could SCOTUS decline to hear the case? I know they probably won't but isn't that actually the most prudent position for then to take?
My question: What kind of tortured logic can make both things true? Trump on all ballots via SCOTUS but pregnant women as yet unprotected via medieval leaning states? My head might explode.
POS Pussy Grabber (I refuse to use his real name) is a national security risk. PERIOD. How can the US Justice Department or any state justice department leverage Colorado's finding of fact to keep POS Pussy Grabber out of the Oval even if elected?
I’m praying California and many other states follow suit!!!!!
Sitting here in Maine with no power for 31 hrs and counting and this news is GIVING ME LIFE!
I’m in Cumberland cnty. Got ours back at 5pm. Good luck to you wherever you are.
Thanks, Donna. I'm in Orono. Power still out, and I just tested positive for covid. First time in four years! Still better off than many people in Maine right now.
Have cousins in the Ellsworth area. Keeping them and you in my thoughts and prayers (not that I have any pull.)
Prayer IS THE GREATEST PULL. You have it!
Diane,
I guess this news warmed the cockles of your heart.
I hope the power resumes shortly.
If by some miracle SCOTUS does the right thing and rules that Trump can be kept off the ballot, are there enough states that are likely to keep him off that he won’t be able to get to 270 in the Electoral College?
If SCOTUS determines he cannot run under the 14th Amendment it would apply to all States.
It's the 14th Amendment at play here. It says that "officials who take an oath to support the Constitution are banned from future office if they 'engaged in insurrection' ", and he obviously DID.
one of the main reasons the Supremes will NOT allow CO to do this.
Finger check: 14th Amendment? You can use Edit option at the "..."
I did.
Hope springs eternal!
We 🙏 that other states follow suit!😂🇺🇸💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Imo, the Supreme Court will not uphold this Colorado Supreme Court decision. I do not let myself feel hopeful for actions I know in my head will not happen. I keep my heart out of the equations…..especially pertaining to Trump.
One story about the Donald’s removal from Colorado’s ballot alluded to an appeal to the US Supreme Court . I am not a Constitutional scholar , but my recollection is that if a state’s ballot concerns are not mentioned SPECIFICALLY in the US Constitution then the US Supreme Court has no say in the matter . Am I correct?
Yes, John, you are correct. Amendment 10 Specifically states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. " It was by this Amendment the Supreme Court was Constitutionally able to overturn Roe v Wade. It is also why I think 'Citizens United' is Unconstitutional.
THIS t***p- dominated SCOTUS will find a way around it. The Grotesque Gold-tone Grifter™ always finds a way to flout the law. But I hope you're correct.💙
Me too
agree
Agree that USSC cannot rewrite CO election law. Besides It would offend the GOP insistence on state’s rights on matters like abortion. They are hoisted by their own petard. And I continue, ala Henny Penny, to scream that every state should bring this action and boot him off the ballot. Petitions circulating in NH now.
The analysis is based on the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. It is most certainly an issue for SCOTUS.
DAMN IT! If they take this issue away from the people 6 of them have no heart and no soul
The 24th Amendment refers to poll tax, the 10th Amendment is more accurate in this instance.
You are correct. It’s the 14th Amendment Section 3, Typing in the dark is not in my skill set.
Understood!
I sure hope so!
wow,hope so.
Do you think the US Supreme Court will side with Colorado?
Thanks, Mary!
That's what I want to know too
Which justices, if any, need to recuse themselves and why?
Need to or will?
Mary, this will get sent to SCOTUS. What are the chances they’ll let this stand or throw it out? I’m in CO so deliriously happy-for the moment. Please ask this question. 😘🙏🏻
Congratulations! It must be awesome to live in a State you don't have to be ashamed of. I'm an elderly 5th Generation Texan and used to be proud of it, but we peaked under Ann Richards and right now I'd gladly emigrate to a more enlightened State if I had the means.
I’m in the red state just above you (Oklahoma), am 80 yrs and feel the same way! We do have a fairly large number of Dems in my area but we haven’t been able to vote out our Rep ..... yet!
Remember when we were young and full of hope and thought that people were generally getting smarter? I miss that feeling. I live in Austin, a place Ram Dass once described as 'an oasis'. (I describe it as an Oasis of BLUE in a state that's hopelessly dumb-ass Red.)
If the states are given responsibility for running the elections, what standing does SCOTUS have to reverse a state Supreme court's decision? Could SCOTUS decline to hear the case? I know they probably won't but isn't that actually the most prudent position for then to take?
They have standing as the issue is an interpretation of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.
14th, but yeah, standing wasn't the right word... their ruling would be in conflict with the Election Clause, so that's what I'm interested in.
The 24th Amendment is about poll taxes required to vote. It's Article 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Yes, I was typing in the dark. The Supremacy clause is also a factor.
Just admit you made an error. Don't edit and then dirty delete.
I admitted it and corrected it. But thanks for the nasty comment.
My question: What kind of tortured logic can make both things true? Trump on all ballots via SCOTUS but pregnant women as yet unprotected via medieval leaning states? My head might explode.
Robert Reich said if the Supreme Court agrees with the Colorado Supreme Court, then Trump cannot be on any state’s ballot. True?
Yes.
That's a big if.
The main reason Supremes will not rule in favor of CO. We can’t have a mass upheaval of all 50 states.
What’s the likelihood that SCOTUS makes a decision on the merits vs. taking an off ramp on procedural grounds or another basis?
POS Pussy Grabber (I refuse to use his real name) is a national security risk. PERIOD. How can the US Justice Department or any state justice department leverage Colorado's finding of fact to keep POS Pussy Grabber out of the Oval even if elected?
Thanks, Mary. Sorry your family is so toxic.
Truth. Mary is remarkably stable and based on my own survival of similar I’m sure it requires a lot of continuing inner work. Bless🙏🏼😊
Are the idiot women voting for him hoping to get grabbed?
Christmas came EARLY FOR ME
🎊🎈🎉🛍️ ＼(^o^)／
Me too!🎄🎄
Discuss the "conviction" issue in regards to whether its necessary for upholding the 14th.
Can Trump be a Write-In Candidate? (Geez, I hope not!!)
He could be, but it wouldn’t matter. The language says he can’t serve, not that he can’t run, if I recall correctly
OK, then my worry is that someone could try to use those votes as leverage.
Write-ins pretty much never get enough votes to matter. Being off the ballot is the death-knell for a campaign.
True, but this is no ordinary election.
Also true but it would take a huge amount of voter education for a write-in candidate to get enough votes to move the needle.
They’ll also have to know how to spell his name. I think some of his supporters will have difficulty with this.
The ruling says the Sec of State cannot count write-in ballots for him because he cannot hold office.
Works For Me!
No. Secretary of State must not count write-in votes for him.
This is the primary that he won’t be on.will he still appear on their ballot come November?
No, because he cannot be the nominee.
What does he foresee in other states, SCOTUS, and 2024 if the ruling stands?