Yes, very interesting. I feel that it is the inner circle along with Donald that plot who they put pressure on or coerce into performing for them. The overnight posts of fantasy scenes of dominance are a view into the mental state of the White House. So much comes out because as Bannon said "flood the zone". If any of it is called into question, the White House protests that Donald is being attacked.
In a relationship, this qualifies as mental and emotional abuse. This is what we are all suffering from. But we older people know that Donald has always been an abusive person.
Once he is gone, a number of psychotic people will need help or institutionalization.
Great discussion! One way to interact with a T follower is to (in a curious/friendly manner) ask them how they originally got interested in him. Keep drawing them out and then say something like
“yeah, i can understand that but I really get upset at ICE separating kids from parents - seems to be getting out of control, don’t you think?” As a retired shrink I think most of his fans have had parents like
Fred and his mom - mean and absent. We call this identification with the aggressor - like on the Stockholm Syndrome, and attack just won’t work.
As discussed: "The phenomenon of gradual escalation suggests that once you rationalize something, it becomes easier, not harder, to take the next one." As a retired university professor, it was my experience that this phenomenon also applies to cheating. I don't believe that anyone wakes up one day and decides to cheat. I think it's a series of choices, small to large, to engage in cheating and to rationalize it. All students caught cheating rationalized their behavior.
The hardest thing for me is the realization that there is a significant portion of our populace who would look forward to and want white male rule, with women subservient. We have to acknowledge that reality and move on. If you look at the numbers of citizens who do not vote, why not put our energies into figuring out how we can make voting easier? Some years 30% of our citizens do not vote. Why is that? Stacy Abrams is a master at that but it seems to me the biggest get would be working to increase voter participation. Some nations give everyone voting day off. Some countries give fines if you don’t vote. There are many ways to legislate easier voting. Consider that as a significant way to get more votes without a lot of partisan quibbling.
You asked, "Why is it that Republicans continue to bend over backwards, bend the knee, kiss the ring, whatever you want to call it? Is it complicity? Is it that they’re weak? They’re afraid? They’re being blackmailed? Whatever the case may be." -- This is a common classic event in dying democracies, according to Levitsky and Ziblatt, How Democracies Die. Either the Congress becomes an attack dog or a lapdog, the latter type of dysfunction applying to our situation under Trump. Hardly a day passes when the Maga Republicans don't come up with a new gimmick to disenfranchise democratic Americans, Americans of color (most of whom are now disenfranchised), and of course women who have changed their name when they married (stay tuned for full disenfranchisement of women.) Should the Supreme Court approve Trump's insane mail-in voting approved list scam, many more will also be disenfranchised. This is the only way Republicans can "win," if that is even the proper word for it.
We need to take ownership of the problem. Trump surrounds himself with insiders so no one can permeate his undercover experiment. Farage in the U.K. has just been uncovered by actors posing as big businessmen and their chat was filmed & exposed. The Met are now investigating. It’s so revealing!
Having no doubt spent much of his business career like a mobster paying off people to get what he wanted, Trump is now putting that experience to work in offering to pay out of the U.S. Treasury with taxpayer money $790 billion to all voters in the November 3 Congressional elections ONLY if those elections result in the Republicans taking both Houses of Congress.
Most people refer to this as “buying votes” which is most likely a crime under federal statutes 52 United States Code Section 10307c and 18 United States Code Section 597.
Given that 158 million people voted in the 2024 election and Trump is promising them $5,000 each if they vote to give both Houses of Congress to his sycophantic cowardly
Republicans whom he would order to release the $790 million dollars of taxpayer money, Trump’s bribe would probably be the largest reported bribe in American history. Such a distinction would no doubt be his only achievement for which he as President would come out as number one.
Before anyone thinks about getting down in the sewer to collect the $5,000 should the Republicans take both houses, they should be aware of massive lawsuits that will challenge his bribe as unconstitutional and unlawful, which could be tied up in the courts for decades during which a Democratic President would rescind the offer and the courts nullify it.
Given Trump’s increasingly frequent nocturnal displays of juvenile fantasies, delusions, self-admiration and megalomania, we can expect that his self-implosion will precede any resolution of his massive bribe offer, no matter which party or parties control the House and Senate.
You guys seem to have, sadly, misrepresented the supposed efficacy of the Milgram experiments, which have been largely discredited: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11981991/
I’m fortunate enough to not know anybody who voted for the obese braindead Nazi whore, but the idea of having some in your own family is just intolerable to consider, let alone being related to the monster himself.
There's so much here, whew! I'd like to know if the lab-coated authority supposedly conducting the Yale study was a big shot in the psych department, and if the participants in the study were students in that department, as so many participants in so many university psych experiments are. Or were, anyway, back when I was among them. Having your livelihood and personal sense of yourself as a, say, Phd student, Senator or Congressman, threatened would certainly lend some force to a request to ignore your conscience. Heroes are those rare individuals who can rise above thi kind of narrow concern. The fact that 35% of the students in the Yake study refused to keep shocking the subject is actually encouraging if you consider what society would be like if we had 35% of us acting like heroes.
Thank you for the transcript conversation. It’s very informative and very interesting.
WE ARE NOT INTIMIDATED!!
SAVE AMERICA and DEMOCRACY!!
VOTE 'EM ALL OUT!!
THEN LOCK 'EM ALL UP!!
WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER and WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!
Together united, a people can never be defeated✌🏽
Yes, very interesting. I feel that it is the inner circle along with Donald that plot who they put pressure on or coerce into performing for them. The overnight posts of fantasy scenes of dominance are a view into the mental state of the White House. So much comes out because as Bannon said "flood the zone". If any of it is called into question, the White House protests that Donald is being attacked.
In a relationship, this qualifies as mental and emotional abuse. This is what we are all suffering from. But we older people know that Donald has always been an abusive person.
Once he is gone, a number of psychotic people will need help or institutionalization.
A 2 dimensional, behaviourist stance.
Great discussion! One way to interact with a T follower is to (in a curious/friendly manner) ask them how they originally got interested in him. Keep drawing them out and then say something like
“yeah, i can understand that but I really get upset at ICE separating kids from parents - seems to be getting out of control, don’t you think?” As a retired shrink I think most of his fans have had parents like
Fred and his mom - mean and absent. We call this identification with the aggressor - like on the Stockholm Syndrome, and attack just won’t work.
As discussed: "The phenomenon of gradual escalation suggests that once you rationalize something, it becomes easier, not harder, to take the next one." As a retired university professor, it was my experience that this phenomenon also applies to cheating. I don't believe that anyone wakes up one day and decides to cheat. I think it's a series of choices, small to large, to engage in cheating and to rationalize it. All students caught cheating rationalized their behavior.
The hardest thing for me is the realization that there is a significant portion of our populace who would look forward to and want white male rule, with women subservient. We have to acknowledge that reality and move on. If you look at the numbers of citizens who do not vote, why not put our energies into figuring out how we can make voting easier? Some years 30% of our citizens do not vote. Why is that? Stacy Abrams is a master at that but it seems to me the biggest get would be working to increase voter participation. Some nations give everyone voting day off. Some countries give fines if you don’t vote. There are many ways to legislate easier voting. Consider that as a significant way to get more votes without a lot of partisan quibbling.
Great chat, Mary❤️ thanks for the transcript. Miss seeing you live 😉
You asked, "Why is it that Republicans continue to bend over backwards, bend the knee, kiss the ring, whatever you want to call it? Is it complicity? Is it that they’re weak? They’re afraid? They’re being blackmailed? Whatever the case may be." -- This is a common classic event in dying democracies, according to Levitsky and Ziblatt, How Democracies Die. Either the Congress becomes an attack dog or a lapdog, the latter type of dysfunction applying to our situation under Trump. Hardly a day passes when the Maga Republicans don't come up with a new gimmick to disenfranchise democratic Americans, Americans of color (most of whom are now disenfranchised), and of course women who have changed their name when they married (stay tuned for full disenfranchisement of women.) Should the Supreme Court approve Trump's insane mail-in voting approved list scam, many more will also be disenfranchised. This is the only way Republicans can "win," if that is even the proper word for it.
Exceptional level of intelligent understanding of the political morass the American public has contributed to and endured.
We need to take ownership of the problem. Trump surrounds himself with insiders so no one can permeate his undercover experiment. Farage in the U.K. has just been uncovered by actors posing as big businessmen and their chat was filmed & exposed. The Met are now investigating. It’s so revealing!
Republican Elected Class Pledge of Allegiance (to Trump)!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
There’s no fun in it,
So, not gonna do it!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
There’s always Joe Biden to blame,
Oh, this is such a lovely game!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never have to govern,
Don’t need to think too hard;
Just lie, and wait for my turn,
To blame Biden, Obama and
The Olympian who came within a yard, but
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
We are Republicans,
That is Republic-in-the-can fans;
And
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
It’s all about getting ours,
Even when it means taking yours,
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Don’t be holding your breath too long,
The Trump dividend check,
Gotta admit was a bribe all along,
Together with all dem other checks that you’re still wondering, ‘what the heck?”
Well, if we paid them, we’d surely all go to jail.
That ain’t never gonna happen,
Todd won’t fail;
So,
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Never gonna take responsibility!
Fantastic conversation.Thank. You Mary
THE BIG BRiBE
Having no doubt spent much of his business career like a mobster paying off people to get what he wanted, Trump is now putting that experience to work in offering to pay out of the U.S. Treasury with taxpayer money $790 billion to all voters in the November 3 Congressional elections ONLY if those elections result in the Republicans taking both Houses of Congress.
Most people refer to this as “buying votes” which is most likely a crime under federal statutes 52 United States Code Section 10307c and 18 United States Code Section 597.
Given that 158 million people voted in the 2024 election and Trump is promising them $5,000 each if they vote to give both Houses of Congress to his sycophantic cowardly
Republicans whom he would order to release the $790 million dollars of taxpayer money, Trump’s bribe would probably be the largest reported bribe in American history. Such a distinction would no doubt be his only achievement for which he as President would come out as number one.
Before anyone thinks about getting down in the sewer to collect the $5,000 should the Republicans take both houses, they should be aware of massive lawsuits that will challenge his bribe as unconstitutional and unlawful, which could be tied up in the courts for decades during which a Democratic President would rescind the offer and the courts nullify it.
Given Trump’s increasingly frequent nocturnal displays of juvenile fantasies, delusions, self-admiration and megalomania, we can expect that his self-implosion will precede any resolution of his massive bribe offer, no matter which party or parties control the House and Senate.
You guys seem to have, sadly, misrepresented the supposed efficacy of the Milgram experiments, which have been largely discredited: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11981991/
Are you the Overstock guy?
I’m fortunate enough to not know anybody who voted for the obese braindead Nazi whore, but the idea of having some in your own family is just intolerable to consider, let alone being related to the monster himself.
There's so much here, whew! I'd like to know if the lab-coated authority supposedly conducting the Yale study was a big shot in the psych department, and if the participants in the study were students in that department, as so many participants in so many university psych experiments are. Or were, anyway, back when I was among them. Having your livelihood and personal sense of yourself as a, say, Phd student, Senator or Congressman, threatened would certainly lend some force to a request to ignore your conscience. Heroes are those rare individuals who can rise above thi kind of narrow concern. The fact that 35% of the students in the Yake study refused to keep shocking the subject is actually encouraging if you consider what society would be like if we had 35% of us acting like heroes.