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Joe Zaragoza's avatar

Can you imagine what things would look like if Kamala Harris won? Things would have improved on Biden's economy. So many people would still be employed. And all of the programs would not be affected. One can only dream.

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Lois W. Halbert's avatar

I still wonder to this day if Musk rigged the votes

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Diane Hammond's avatar

I'm no conspiracy monger, but even I wonder that.

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Phullipia's avatar

I’m in the same boat.

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Michael Gomez's avatar

I believe that as well. Some how the votes had to manipulated. Kind of strange a couple of musk's sats fell from the sky w/o any explaining. Someone knows something because that was too quick of a count when it was announced it would take a couple days.

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Gaynell Fairless's avatar

I remember Trump said they had a plan

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Mary Douglas's avatar

Any plan of his is devious

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Linda Exley's avatar

And perhaps it would be the last time they would have to vote.

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Bonnie Council's avatar

And I think they are committed to seeing that that happens. I'm certain Musk had his fingers in trump's election. And my instincts are rarely wrong.

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lisa (my two cents worth)'s avatar

Too much red quickly popped up on the map. I'm convinced it was rigged.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

It was extreme gerrymandering, plain and simple.

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red slider's avatar

It doesn't matter. That's done. It was a stepping stone to tyranny, and that step has already been taken. They've moved on, and we best do the same.

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Mary Jones's avatar

What bothers me is no one ever second-guessed his “win”. I’ve believe Musk and his satellites were part of a plan from the start, one that was conceived and put in play four years ago. And no one in govt has ever questioned this. Why are the Democrats so afraid of him? I believe he’s blackmailing the Republicans, but does he have incriminating evidence on both parties?

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James Rankin's avatar

That's what I've been wondering. This malaise has affected the whole Democratic Party, although a number of them are beginning to speak out now. We know that Trump is an inveterate cheater & that he had powerful, well-connected, tech savvy billionaires deeply invested in his winning the election, including Musk & Putin. But from the election to the inauguration, which is the time they could've done something about it, they were practically silent & inactive, despite many warnings from non-politicians, including cybersecurity experts. My guess is that some mysterious powerful person or entity either inside or outside the party told them in no uncertain terms that they must keep quiet, not challenge in any way the election results, & certify the elections without objection to this deranged man we all knew would greatly harm the country if not the world. I would love to know who this entity was, what they said & the reasons & threats behind it. I can hardly imagine anything worth risking what is going on today.

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Mary Douglas's avatar

We would all like to know

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Linda Exley's avatar

Common sense literally tells who, what, and where it began. It began with Reagan, after the cold war ended, if which he had no background in government was seen a hero, on the sil er screen, because he followed a script handed to him, the Heritage Foundation's Mandate for leadership, which Reagan gave to the Republicans within his office. The goal was to destroy Democracy, and for Republicans to take over. Those were rather 1st steps, each Republican President were able to take a bite out Americans rights till it was set up for the right one came along yo finish the job. Mr Thom Hartman has it right, we have come full circle to Musk..Who has started seeing genocide of races, religious affiliates, as being OK and scapegoating that it was not Hitler but the German Government that caused the mass murders in the Holocaust.

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Linda Exley's avatar

I believe Edward Snowden was part of it, the wikileak person who was given asylum in Russia. Trump wants him back, yet he never offered a pardon if he returned..

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James Rankin's avatar

How does that connect with Democrats being impotent since the election?

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Edward Snowden was not with Wikileaks. Trump does not want him back, that is just Trump convincing people who do not know the truth and believe what he says rather than what he does. Please do some research before you post. Edward Snowden was and is a true patriot to the people. He exposed the NSA for their top-secret surveillance program being used for spying on the American people instead of as a warning system of impending attackers to the US. The NSA played on people's fears of being attacked just like Trump plays on people's fears with lies and covert actions. I do not believe he won the 2024 election and certainly not by the overwhelming numbers he and his sycophants keep shoving down our throats every time he is up to no good.

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Democrazy's avatar

I don't think the Dems are afraid of him. I think they're deliberately letting him do all that damage so that MAGA can get a true picture of what they voted for early enough to swing the mid-terms (assuming Trump doesn't throw a body block to that election!!). Dems are looking forward to MAGA gagging by stuffing all of Trump's chaos down their throats.

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James Rankin's avatar

That strategy is extremely dangerous, & puts us & the world through a tremendous amount of harm.

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Democrazy's avatar

The damage is going to happen anyway. I mean, the Dems have no power to stop it, they can only delay it, and what does that accomplish other than hiding the damage that's going to happen eventually anyway. At least letting the GOP have at it now will allow any damage to surface so that the world can see who is responsible during this same term! Otherwise, Trump will simply blame the next POTUS, just like he's blaming Biden for all the damage he (trump) did in his first term.

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Linda Exley's avatar

We have seen and heard the taking down of many who tried to push the Truth, many of which were Republicans, all Americans have witnessed the division and hate, caused by propaganda, intimidations, promises and money. As well as the self proclamations of Trump's greatness, intelligence and wealth, that as time wore on proven to be false. The same things that has happened in other countries when being taken over. The common goal was to destroy Democracy, which has nothing really to do a political party, But the voice of the people, We the People, are to be the masters and government the servant.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

You might be on to something there...

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red slider's avatar

Tyrants and autocracies don't care about any of that, all those old playbook strategies. When you're in charge with unlimited power you don't give a damn what the Dems think, or even what MAGA thinks. You have the power to make thinking obsolete along with that old playbook.

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Democrazy's avatar

Agreed. I've said dozens of times since that comment back in March, that Trump may very well announce that "by virtue of the executive powers vested in me by the US Constitution, I hereby 'suspend' the mid-term and all future national elections until further notice due to the nationwide threat to our national security". Of course, the "threat" can be <any Trump gripe du jour>.

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Linda Exley's avatar

Remember when the boxes of documents were confiscated at Maralago, in them was found a document and file on Trudeau. That had nothing to do with government, and was returned. Then his saying he had information on DeSantis that even his wife didn't know, when he was running for presidency, or how everyone that was running against in 1 short week dropped out till he was the only one left.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

All the while sharing classified information about our nuclear sub positions with some random Australian business man - just to show off.

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Linda Exley's avatar

Some even seen that as intimidation and a possible threat to their sovereignty. Just as he has with Canada, Greenland, Mexico, Panama, as well perhaps Gaza, Columbia, Venezuela,and now Africa, offering $5M gold cards(?). Trump's goal is to claim all rare earth and mineral rights as well as their natural resources, while stripping their rights to sovereignty.

With Gaza, he needs to place himself, beside God, on God's Land, complete with a golden Idol of himself, where all the rich and famous, can find their pleasures and fulfillment without government interference and he would be seen as the government, and the law(which he feels he is above). THIS IS AS HITLER DID..

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Nah, just carefully constructed voting district manipulation. That's all it took. That and non-stop propagandizing from Faux Newspeak.

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Linda Exley's avatar

Many Heritage persons were placed in government positions. Even as mayor's, some sit in Congress that were once in Trumps cabinet, like Ronnie Jackson, Kash Patel, JD Vance,Navarro etc. The whole government system was infiltrated even before Trumps 1st term.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Yes, this has been in the making for a very long time. Mitch McConnell was also a big part of it when he was instrumental in stacking the judicial with biased judges.

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Iris Sclera's avatar

Me too

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Mary Douglas's avatar

Possibly

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Linda Exley's avatar

In 2017, after taking office, he had members if Congress and their families investigated by the FBI, called it voters Integrity, because he lost the popular to Hillary. At the same time he ordered a Commission to collect all voters registrations from all 50 states.

When that failed by court order, he then started saying there was leaks with in the government, saying he was being spied on, many times and always by Democrats.

He then said the elections themselves were rigged. After losing in 2020, he began his relentless 3rd party Audits, by a friend Doug Logan, with the inexperienced cyber Ninjas, taking photos, confiscated voting kiosk, demanding the routers and all registrations, bit behind that was the left of Americans personal and private information, that now seems to have been given to the Heritage Foundation and Action group. And now Musk with his Starlink, and so many Hacks into government and Corporations. Yes I believe the 2025 election was stolen.

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Linda Exley's avatar

Remember Musk also has a company called nutralink, that makes chips, implanted in the brain, placed by robots. These chips are controlled by computers and phones, so why wouldn't he be able to manipulate data and elections. Trump is big on collecting data of Americans, or should I say the Heritage is. They have a data base they started, for those loyal to Trump. Trump has those in Congress investigated housed many commissions I order to collect voters information.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

I believe Skunk Musk's ultimate goal is with that is to seize control of as many brains as possible, and turn us into his personal cyborgs.

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Linda Exley's avatar

There are also the government satellites placed by Musk. Anyone else notice how many times the system has been hacked, those demanding Ransome, or complete files disappearing..

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Michael's avatar

The felon did say he did not need any votes, he stated he won already, and that was just after he announced he was running again.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Yes, it was manipulated using a technique known as "extreme gerrymandering".

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MimiExtraordinare's avatar

Just by putting over 200 million towards trump is a rigging of the votes. He paid people to register, who do you think they felt beholden to.https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-supreme-court-musk-million-dollar-giveaway-cdea66e0dcbaa53dd183e1d10bee2b35

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JaxRox's avatar

Visit #Verify the Vote 🗳️ to see how it was done. ✅

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James Rankin's avatar

I don't wonder it. I'm sure of it. And more & more evidence is being accumulated to show that. Check out Election Truth Alliance & other sources.

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Iris Sclera's avatar

I am, too.

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stefhen bryan's avatar

naw, you guys are wrong. just accept that your fellow bretherens are stupid, en masse.

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Michael's avatar

No, the only one wrong is you, the felon stated on national television that musk was good at computers, he helped me win. Then the next day, musk stated on national television, that he had his team work on the election machine's electrically. Why don't you just accept the facts staring you in the face? Oh, that's right, MAGA doesn't believe in the truth unless it is from the felon's mouth. We can not help it that you follow the lies as your truth.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

All you need to do is look at an electoral map and you can see it. You see all those districts shaped like a rattlesnake slithering through the underbrush? That's the reason. That plus a finely honed GOP propaganda machine, led by Faux Newspeak.

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James Rankin's avatar

Gerrymandering is only a small part of it, one that we've had for quite some time that has intensified recently, but still not as impactful as voter suppression & vote manipulation.

Fox-led GOP propaganda is definitely a major reason for the huge division among Americans & a large proportion believing in things that are not true. This is mainly due to the influence of Russian propaganda, trolling & interference, & the inordinate amounts of money coming from right-wing billionaires. These entities, with all their wealth & technical knowhow, are also involved in vote manipulation & voter suppression on behalf of Trump.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Oh I wouldn't say that. No question voter suppression has reached near Jim Crow levels, and with the same ugly tactics. However, gerrymandering is profoundly impactful, especially since, as you point out, it has intensified recently.

When voting districts resemble a rattlesnake slithering through the underbrush, it significantly alters the composition of Congress.

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James Rankin's avatar

Perhaps more so than I acknowledged, but still gerrymandering is most impactful when the vote is close, & the candidate winning the popular vote has lost the electoral college because of the way districts were gerrymandered. According to the official (tainted) election results, Trump got more votes than Harris, but I contend that Harris got more than Trump, including in most of the swing states, which were most heavily impacted by vote manipulation & voter suppression. Gerrymandering affects only electoral votes, not the popular vote.

For more on this, you can check out Election Truth Alliance or SMARTelections. Also people like Stephen Spoonamore, Jessica Denson, Andrew Darroch & "Cat" discuss this in much greater detail, including analyzing patterns in voting results that are quite suspicious & appear to be the result of algorithms favoring Trump. There's also evidence that Trump partisans got a hold of a lot of voting machines & inserted a code that affected the results, & various statements, slipups & actions by Trump & others that strongly suggest hanky-panky by them.

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Linda Exley's avatar

CREWS.Org is a very good source. As well as opensecrets.org.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Everyone should read the substack post "This Will Hold". It offers scientific explanations to some of the ways they upended results in the 2024 election. I don't think it was one method they used to get to this nightmarish place we are in now; it was many. I have not read the entire series yet but the current post is very interesting. "This Will Hold" offers some pretty sound proof of how it was done. More than that, they are putting forth a plan as to how to turn this illegal immoral group of political pirates around and walk them off the plank.

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Pauline Stebbins's avatar

I don’t wonder! When people (especially profoundly stupid, diabolically evil morons) show you who they are, believe them the first time! Rigged election AGAIN! Felon Trump’s “Reign of Terror I” and Felon Trump’s current “Reign of Terror II”! Stop blaming voters! Would rather see OUTRAGE, not the polite concern shown by folks who can do something about this travesty if they could only get off their dead keisters and actually DO IT!

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Chazxx's avatar

My sentiments exactly! Love you ma'am!!

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Iris Sclera's avatar

!!!

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Steve Doll's avatar

There is mounting evidence that the votes were tweaked in at least seven key swing states. In those states, the number of "bullet" votes, i.e. ballots in which only one candidate on the entire ballot was filled in - Trump - far exceeded the norm established in previous elections. And the Thief Executive did boast about Musk knowing "more than anybody about those vote-counting machines" in Pennsylvania.

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Linda Exley's avatar

Also the purged ballots that were found, most were for Kamala.

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Iris Sclera's avatar

NOT SURPRISED.

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Ruth Sheets's avatar

Lois, I was just listening to a podcast where an expert in election auditing described the anomalies in the election in the swing states and how the votes seem to have been tampered in the tallying process, not in the actual voting. Using graphs he showed that after a certain number of votes on each machine, 60% of the votes automatically went to Trump and 40% to Harris. If that seemed too large a disparity, the votes were dropped and the voter was listed as not having voted for president. His talk was convincing. It could explain how Trump seemed to know he had won by the Sunday before the election and why he thanked Musk the guy who knows about computers for help with the election (a slight paraphrase, but not much).

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RJM's avatar

Of course he did. He admitted it on Jan 18 in a pre inauguration speech. He thanked Elon for giving him Pennsylvania and connected that (in his indirect rambling( to Elon's being very good with computers. Rep. Jasmine Crockett and nj.com picked it up and wrote about it.

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Elizabeth K. Baker's avatar

Well we know in some states the people were disenfranchised. We do know that ballot curing was halted earlier than anticipated with absentee votes not counted

in certain counties.

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Dotty's avatar

There's no doubt in my mind ...if you saw how the entry data changed after you had voted blue all the way down the ballot and then see your vote jump and change from blue to the red candidate you'd say it's obvious. It not only happened to my daughter but then her husband 3 days later ...different times , different days . After we all realized what had happened it was reported but this was in a red state ... Centerton Ark ....so we expected a red outcome but if it happened so obviously in a red state can you imagine how easy it was to do in swing states .. . Pretty fing obvious . At first we thought it was a fluke but when other people we knew had it happen too .. well let's just say Kamala won ..she should have demanded a recount . .and the Democratic party was complicet with all of this ....and they shouldn't have been

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Leigh Silverton's avatar

Yeah, we don't know what Trump said to Putin, What Putin said to Trump, what Putin said to Musk and what Musk said to Putin. Zelensky's eyes looked said in his meeting with Donald. I don't know if it was intentional because of his background in the theatrical arts but I think that, and the facts of the situation must have been one reasons are former European allies got involved.

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Joel Kirschenstein's avatar

Ten million dems didn't vote!

Sure. KBG at work.

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Chelle Lindahl's avatar

90 million registered voters didn't vote. Not sure of the breakdown of D, R and Ind though.

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Glenda Updyke's avatar

I found that it was interesting that after elections there were starlings that exploded. Did they have something to do with the power or operation of counting votes? On March 7, there was rumor Trump said he rigged it.

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red slider's avatar

What matters now is how, given the unlimited power we handed him, how he plans to rig all future elections? Or, if we will even have any future elections. What he did then is of little importance now. We handed the power over to him in a "peaceful transfer of power." That's a done deal. Time to move on to these more important questions and what we are going to do about them.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

When we do get out of his clutches, do not forget who in Congress manipulated our constitution to blindly support this coup. He and Musk did not do this without much help from our elected officials in Congress.

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Denny Corsa's avatar

Don’t wonder about it. Believe it. There’s so much that doesn’t add up. For one thing, all the swing states went red. That’s statistically improbable.

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stefhen bryan's avatar

he didn't. didnt have to, the american popuce is profoundly stupid. Professor Robert Reich told them in great detail, in his 1994 C-SPAN interview, that this was going to happen.

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Mary Douglas's avatar

I think he did

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Ann Panda's avatar

I think of that every day, Joe!

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Joe Zaragoza's avatar

It's just so sad that we're here and this is our reality

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Emily B's avatar

It's just so TERRIFYING that we're here today and this is our reality. Maybe I'm being overdramatic, but it feels like Armageddon.

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Patty Smith's avatar

You aren't being overdramatic. At all. We are in a horrible, horrible mess.

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Joel Kirschenstein's avatar

Getting close to Trumph fratricide!

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Mary Douglas's avatar

Frightening

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Pauline Stebbins's avatar

Not overly dramatic at all! Armageddon? Bullseye 🎯! Wish missing spines and a few other attachments could be found so that the Terrorists could be removed, replaced and enjoy the consequences of their heinous crimes!

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Bonnie Brooks's avatar

Yes, because people would not see that a liar will always be a liar and the Zebra's stripe do not change. Now, there is people who can kick their own ass for putting a snake in the office. Reality has kicked in over a thousand times or more. But it is too late.

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Mary Douglas's avatar

Very sad! Something has to be done! This is not a democracy

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netta glaser's avatar

ME TOO

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Bikracer's avatar

It breaks my heart to think about it. 💔

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Marlo's avatar

A CR Democrats Could Vote For

Exposing the Dangers in the Republican CR

GEORGIA FISANICK

MAR 11

Democratic messaging on the continuing resolution is all wrong. You can’t tell scared people that you will “stand fast” to try to preserve things they care about for the long term while gutting them in the short term.

You have to have an alternative that protects them.

The alternative is to say that they will ONLY vote for a CLEAN continuing resolution that:

•runs through September 30, 2025

•has no changes in any of the funding levels that were in Biden’s last budget to protect the social safety net until then

•forbids sequestration of funds so Trump and Vought cannot create a phony emergency to allow them to redirect funds

•forbids illegal impoundments of funds by Trump

•Raises the debt ceiling by only a small fraction of the $4 trillion so Trump cannot get enough to enact the tax cut for billionaires.

Why vote for any version of the CR? BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AND DO MORE HARM.

Tell the people that!!!

If the Republicans pass their own booby-trapped CR, at least you’ve warned people about what more destruction may be coming down the track.

And you are taking the first step in building a true opposition shadow government. One that makes the alternative positions and policies clear and exposes the hidden attacks on the working people of America in everything that Trump and the oligarchs are doing.

https://open.substack.com/pub/georgiafisanick/p/a-cr-democrats-could-vote-for

IMPORTANT! Call/email the House Republicans and READ to them Georgia Fisanick’s excellent ‘Alternative CR’ (above) that the Democrats should DEMAND NOW.

I already called Hakeem Jeffries. (202) 225-3121

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Steve O’Cally's avatar

I disagree. Shut the goddamn power off, if it prevents people from getting “disappeared.” No CR , and no debt ceiling suspension. The House is supposed to pass a credible budget for the Senate to endorse. Can we keep funding going until we invade Canada and take back the Canal? Let’s not.

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Candice White's avatar

sigh, think about it all the time. Don't you wonder what they are thinking right now? For Biden & his family, they should be mad at themselves, rightfully, for deciding to run again when he knew & his family definitely new he was in serious cognitive decline. Plus he said when he ran that he wanted to be a one time President. If Dems had a primary, where Dems voted and decided on a candidate there would have been buy in & 24M probably would not have stayed home & Dems could have won the house and/or senate. I am not seeing any Dem leadership and that is scary. No going on TV, podcasts to SCREAM about what is going on. GOP have become masters at TV BS

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Denny Corsa's avatar

I’ve seen several videos of Warren speaking about bills and the like.

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Debi's avatar

Trump told his followers at a rally not to come out and vote because he didn't need them. Weird. He also said that he and Mike Johnson had "a secret." As far as I know, no media asked him what the secret was. They're all afraid of him. ALL polls showed Kamala ahead. Even top pollsters like that chick in Iowa and forecaster Allan Lichtman predicted Kamala would win. Elon got involved and suddenly Trump didn't look so stressed out anymore. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but Musk has technology we can't even imagine. He did something. That's why Trump is putting up with Elon running the show and his kid putting boogies on Trump's desk. He owes him big time. More than money.

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Susan Rohrbach's avatar

It’s too painful to even think about.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

We have to think about it, but even moreso, we have to act! Please read the Substack post "This Will Not Hold". The most recent installment gives a plan that ALL the people can act upon to fix this illegal and out of control administration. Everyone must band together and make this happen.

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Lee Rappeport's avatar

Yes, I can imagine and it would be this.....We would be walking around with a sense of relief and smiles on our faces!

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red slider's avatar

The time for retro-dreams is over. Time to start thinking about what you do when you live in an autocracy headed by a Mad King. That's where we are. That's what we must deal with.

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Lisa Joy 🏳️‍🌈's avatar

I hate this dystopian timeline

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Joe Zaragoza's avatar

Me too

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Chazxx's avatar

They voted him in, or, did Trump steal this election like he did in 2016?

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Stolen! Please read "This Will Hold" a substack post, particularly the latest post. It gives proof of the steal and offers a way to take back the government by the people. We cannot expect Dems or any one group to do it. We all have to take steps necessary to do it legally and without fear.

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Chazxx's avatar

Ma'am they are ALWAYS producing proof of the “steal” . I would much rather talk about Trump's proven relationship with Epstein and the horrors of Trump's economy and using ICE!! STOP THE BS ABOUT TRUMP. YOUR MOVIE PROBABLY DOESN'T HOLD WATER!!

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Chazxx, All of those things you would rather talk about are plain facts that are already in evidence. So what more is there to talk about? What I believe is important is to take action to remove him and others who break the law and or conspire to overthrow the constitution. He commits many horrors every single day. We see them. He isn't particularly good at fooling anyone who takes the time to look at reality and has some amount of character, that includes not being greedy and having some empathy.

If you want to find a way out of this, research some of the information you dismiss as BS, with a critical eye. One of the fairly effective tactics Trump uses is that he spouts something that his warped thinking has concocted, like the election in 2020 was stolen from him. He repeats it over and over and over with no basis in fact, until everyone just rolls their eyes and ignores it. Anyone in subsequent elections where it might have actually happened, like in 2024 is afraid of looking like a complete ass because Trump made such an ass out of himself preaching "stolen election" when it clearly wasn't.

Look at the proof they offer and pick a viable theory that gives solutions you can research on your own, not just more discussions about how horrible his actions are. We know he is horrible! We know he is breaking the law and shitting on humanity! How do we UNITE to bring an end to him and all of his enablers? That is what I want to discuss.

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Mary  L. Wooster's avatar

We wouldn’t be extending huge tax cuts for the rich, who spend their lives trying to squirrel away more money than they will ever need.

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stefhen bryan's avatar

(Wagging index finger at you, speaking in a condescending tone, like a parent talking to a two year old) A, a, auuuu, thats not what stupid americans voted for. LOL.

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Deborah B.'s avatar

I am thinking the same thing! There was so much momentum for Kamala and for her to lose all of those states is just strange. Trump made a comment about Musk knowing how to manipulate computers or something to that effect and he mentioned Pennsylvania. Why would he say that? Something is up.

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James Rankin's avatar

I heard from a couple of (secondhand at best) sources that she had begun an inquiry to auditing election results but was stopped for some reason. I have no idea if it's true, but I've been very disappointed that this woman who kept saying "When we fight we win" has been so quiet & weak since the election.

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Mary Jones's avatar

You’d think with all the damage he’s doing to our country someone would realize he never could have won without cheating. If the Democrats sit back and do nothing this whole country goes down the drain. They are suspiciously silent. I remember trump saying “I don’t need your votes” before the election-no one else hear this but me?

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RJM's avatar

I heard it too. First he says they didn’t need to vote. Then he must have gotten a signal that he shouldn’t reveal that, as he’d said in the debates with Hilary back in 2016, “the election is rigged [for me].”So then he flipflopped and said they’d only have to vote this time snd then no more.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

They have realized it. Read "This Will Hold"! its only one of the several information entities that are out there. Scientific proof that the election was rigged. Trump made such an enormous pain in the ass of himself about the stolen election before, that everyone would have just clowned the Democrats had they mentioned it after the 2024 election.

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SUZANNE SCHERER's avatar

James Rankin: You're disappointed??? What did you expect her to say or do? Challenge him to a duel at dawn ?? Beat him up? Do what he did in 2020 and say the election was rigged ad nauseum? Who would prosecute him on her behalf? If you think being silent denotes weakness, there's a lot of Republicans you need to be scolding for being silent and doing nothing while allowing fat nixon pervert hoover and armpit odor to strip the country.

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James Rankin's avatar

Yes, of course I'm disappointed that she didn't call for an investigation of the fraudulent election results nor had them audited, which was her prerogative, & which many of us, including cybersecurity experts who analyzed the election results, called for her to do. Instead she pretended everything was normal, & like the rest of the Democrats, certified his stolen "victory" in the interest of "decorum" & left the country & world to suffer from this horror. Are you not disappointed? Or even outraged?

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SUZANNE SCHERER's avatar

Of course I'm angry! I've been angry ever since trump and his his snivelling criminal skanks arrived on the scene!Where have you been? How old are you? This has been going on since at least 2000. Had Harris called for an investigation or demanded a recount, trump's supreme court would have ruled in his favor, just as the supreme court ruled in Bush's favor over Gore in 2000, when Gore demanded a recount. Harris is well aware of this. She's also aware Dems are outnumbered in Congress. She's also aware of the backlash occurring had she demanded a recount, trump likely would've started up the whole "See? I won in 2020" shit all over again even though investigations proved he lost, which he never accepted and still whines about today. Perhaps she DID demand an investigation, but was overruled because of the chaos trump caused in 2020, even though she has a right to demand recount. Musk and Putin could have disrupted 2024 just as Putin disrupted 2016. Perhaps Harris didn't want the resulting discord of another recall or was talked out of demanding one. I don't know! The problem is NOT Harris, NOR IS BLAMING HER GOING TO SOLVE ANYTHING.

The election process itself has to be safeguarded from foreign interference. Since trump hooked up with techskank musk, this election may have been in danger from the getgo.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

Nobody would have listened because Trump cried so long and hard about his false belief of election being stolen when he lost. She would have looked as stupid as he did to most of the public. Its not until after we have seen just a small part of the chaos he is bringing to America that people are now open to hearing about what took place in 2024.

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Ana's avatar

James, you can be disappointed, but you're upset at the wrong people. MAGA Republicans have control of the Senate. Any investigation would be squashed. She's a private citizen now, just like you. What have YOU been doing since the election?

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James Rankin's avatar

I am talking about immediately after the election, when Biden was still in power & had the authority to call for an investigation, & Kamala, more than anyone else, had the right to call for an audit on questionable election results by a notorious cheater, a right that Congress, still split, & the US Supreme Court had no authority to prevent. There were multiple recounts & audits in various states on the 2020 election results, all which reinforced the fact that Biden won the election fairly, & if anything, by larger margins than the initial results showed. Why Republicans get to conduct recounts & audits based on no real evidence, while Democrats are loathe to ask for any investigation, recount or audit based on much stronger grounds, really mystifies me.

I alerted many people about the tampering of the 2024 election, including sending messages directly to Biden & Harris as well as relevant legislators, as did many others, but still no reaction from any of them.

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Sara Rodgers's avatar

We had proof that he held back support from Ukraine that was directed by Congress, we had proof that he and his people were colluding with Russia in the 2016 election, we had proof that he was a womanizer and a cheat, solid proof. Did that get him out of office? NO. When he gets away with each of these obvious acts, each time, each act only makes him feel invincible. Mitch McConnell was instrumental in putting unscrupulous characters in places that would prop Trump up and let him continue his drag.

Everyone would have believed Kamala was just a sore loser, blowing smoke and that would have delayed finding the truth even more. All these people who see him and hear him commit all these outrageous deeds and defend him no matter what, had to see enough of it so that it is affecting their personal lives in such a way that it makes them uncomfortable enough to wake up. I hope this is it but I still have my doubts. He ALWAYS gets away with his BS. Ask Mary Trump to tell you some of the times he got away with his crap all throughout his life. That is what made him a raving narcissist! It has to stop and people need to get a grip on what is real in life. They need to be aware the next time they believe someone, especially when he or she shows and tells them who and what they are over and over.

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James Rankin's avatar

But people who were paying attention, which should've included Kamala & the rest of the Democrats, had to have known how dangerous Trump was to the country & the world, & done everything to stop him, including make sure that all his trials proceeded to the end, that the trial that found him guilty of 34 felonies put him in jail, & that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment was enforced declaring Trump disqualified for further office due to breaking his oath of office, to say nothing of investigating & auditing suspicious election results & refusing to certify the election. Concerns about whether some people might not believe the truth, whether they might get ridiculed for rightfully challenging fraudulent election results because Trump wrongfully raised a fuss about legitimately losing an election, or how MAGA might react to efforts to bring Trump to justice should never have outweighed bringing Trump to justice & preventing a highly predictable fascist autocracy under Trump.

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Judy's avatar

Yes, a recount of one battleground state and then the rest if it seems something’s amiss.

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Danita Hamilton's avatar

Well Said Mary Thank You For All You Do. I Truly Appreciate You. I’m So Sick Of That Monster And His Lies. He Is A Very Evil Living Walking Piece Of Shit 😈😈😈

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LYNN COOK's avatar

Public Servant...Pastor Niemoller 's Lament....!.

As truly significant today as it was during the days of WWII...

Past is prologue.... will we never learn from history ???

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Lauren's avatar

A gentle reminder: Niemoller was a Nazi.

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Hayden's avatar

A quick search indicates Niemoller was an early supporter of the Nazis who realized the error of his ways.

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LYNN COOK's avatar

Thank you, Hayden....never knew about Niemoller's former Nazi affiliation. Mea culpa. Pastor Neimoller ultimately came to see " the light" of goodness. Those words...profetic as they are , will guide others in future.times. Sadly, the drumpf family will never fully appreciate the Pastor's words...they appear lost to anything good & uplifting.

How did this man with no conscience.. no heart beating in his chest..fool so.many? We're.certainly. paying a a horrible price.

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LYNN COOK's avatar

Thank you, Lauren.. ..ignorant of his earlier Nazi affiliation...so relieved he, at least, saw the light of goodness. Sadly...do not feel that same light will ever shine for any of the drumpf cast of characters in this lifetime.

Thank you again for your knowledge...☺️

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Yodagirl's avatar

No.

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Emily B's avatar

This time, I'm more worried about persecution because I'm a Democrat than because I'm a Jew.

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Michael Corthell's avatar

- PULLED QUOTE -

From the photo caption: ''“Peace Deal?” Very funny.'' Trump calling for a Ukraine peace deal is like an arsonist offering to "help" put out the fire with...gasoline. Cutting aid, cozying up to Putin, demanding Ukraine’s resources as “payment”, yep, totally sounds like a fair negotiaton. Spoiler: Ukraine and Europe aren’t buying it and we aren't either.

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LYNN COOK's avatar

Everything is transactional to him.

But his result is always " I win...you lose" ...biggly.

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Susanne's avatar

I admire President Zelensky so much and I hate what Donald is doing to Ukraine, all in service to his master Putin.

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patti delvillan's avatar

Everytime he breathes he lies 😡

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Jack DeMille's avatar

Like a child, if his lips are moving , he is lying

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Steve Ridling's avatar

His responses are sounding more and more like he doesn't have a straight answer because he doesn't know.. he is just the talking head and they haven't told him what's going on because his handlers don't want him going off the rails.

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Skitealwedrop's avatar

Exactly, this idiot has no idea what he’s doing, nor does Muskrat. They are both creating a massive fucking mess.

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Outdoorluvr's avatar

I also watch what he says. Even if it seems insignificant, he often projects what he's doing or is about to do. If it's on his mind hard enough to fly out of his lying mouth, he's either done it or is planning to do it. (EDIT: Or someone has mentioned an idea that he's pondering.)

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Punkette's avatar

And, per Michael Cohen, the accordion hands are also a tell that he is lying.

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Skitealwedrop's avatar

I really like Michael Cohen. He knows the tremendous fraudster better than anyone.

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Luke Samo's avatar

But Mary Trump seems to know him better.

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Punkette's avatar

I have learned a lot about Dump from those two experts - Dr. Mary and “his fixer” Michael Cohen!

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Skitealwedrop's avatar

Me too.

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Outdoorluvr's avatar

I'm not arguing with Mary's familiarity, or her insight as a trained and educated professional. I'm coming from a place of observation, as well as the experience of a having a psychopathic individual in my own family.

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Skitealwedrop's avatar

Agreed. Though I’m sure she wishes she didn’t.

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MollyWhitebear's avatar

OH yeah! I made note of those accordion hands years and years ago! SUCH a blatant tell!

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Punkette's avatar

Hehehe! So helpful for his “woke” audience! 😉

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MollyWhitebear's avatar

M-hmmm. And the further he stretches them out, the bigger the lie it is, too.

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Dotty's avatar

He's truly his own worst enemy in his deliberate denials and deflection . You know what he's planning or what he has done by his pointing fingers the other way

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MJean's avatar

Mary it must be hard on you having this despicable bottom feeder a member of your extended family. Thank goodness you are a voice of normal and intelligent reason. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

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Christian Major's avatar

Just look at his unhinged reaction to our Ontarian friends slapping a 25% export tax on electricity. Yet he remains patently incapable to taking ownership of any negative consequence he inflicts onto the People.

It's not even clever, and the pressure keeps mounting.

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Susanne's avatar

Donald still doesn’t know what a tariff is.

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Madeline Shapiro's avatar

It long ago occurred to me that Trump is a Russian asset. What is worse is that we have a large population that have poor powers of discernment or are fascist to the core.

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Robot Bender's avatar

Since the 1980s when the Russians bailed his then worthless ass out.

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Y eYe I's avatar

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WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK

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ARE WE THE FUCK WAITING FOR

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TO TAKE ALL THESE NAZIS DOWN?

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WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK

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ARE WE WAITING FOR?

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Michael's avatar

It's urgent!! We've got to have a national uprising

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Lauren Reinkens's avatar

The oligarchs wouldn’t be able to take over and privatize all of the United States‘s assets and laws if they don’t break them first. It’s all going very well according to the “strongman” plan. And no, the orange PINO is not a STRONG man, merely using strongman tactics known the world over Since Mussolini and Hitler, right up-to-date with Orban and Putin, et al.

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Tom Young's avatar

Tom here…..

Thank you Mary.

This all is so sad and so demoralizing. I am scared.

Please keep doing what you can. Those of us out here in the general public feel entirely helpless against the stupidity running rampant and squashing us “NCPs”.

🙏❤️

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svboy's avatar

amazingly well written and in point. the leadership of the dems is corrupt. most dems from NY, barring AOC, are completely driven by wall street. they need to just keep repeating a few things everywhere. 1) why are the gop only focused on expenses and not revenues. 2) why are the gop enabling and growing the most accumulation of wealth by the top 1% in 100 years. 3) why is the GOP not helping our allies but not cutting defense spending?.4) why is the gop trampling on the first amendment! americans can criticize christians, muslims, whites, blacks and others but not israel. 5) why are we cutting the VA, FDA, NIH, EPA who primarily help the bottom 90%. 6) why has the GOP gutted the IRS division that is focused on collecting the right taxes from corporations and individuals making more than $10m. 7) why has the gop stopped the functioning of the CPFB whic returned $87b to americans who had been defrauded by corporations. they are the party of the elite and are funneling more money to the top 5% and increasing the greatest wealth hoarding in 100 years. there is 1T of taxes that are being stolen every year by non compliant tax

dodgers every year.

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LovelyJustine aka BaddGramma's avatar

He uses his voice as a tool to keep his followers under his spell. It really does have a hypnotic effect... But don't listen too closely for obvious reasons ;)

Damn that guy is a con man huckster charlatan extraordinaire!

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Outdoorluvr's avatar

Yeah, I'm hypnotized to barf every time I hear his voice.

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LovelyJustine aka BaddGramma's avatar

Yes, but if we want to get the late night humor we at least have to watch in close caption, ha ha ha.

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Emily B's avatar

He actually has a kind of genius for self-promotion. It's evil.

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MoonDancer's avatar

It's a bedtime story, We must stand UNITED & provide their nightmares

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Elizabeth K. Baker's avatar

Russian assets are immune from the disaster unfolding. He is making millions.

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LYNN COOK's avatar

The word " millions" is becoming rather obsolete these days...

These Robber Barons of today are thinking " Billions...Trillions..."

Look.at just how close muskette is now!

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Elizabeth K. Baker's avatar

On my spreadsheet, I deducted the billions he owes the US and other party which left him with millions.

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LYNN COOK's avatar

Hope you used very RED PEN.!

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Terry F.'s avatar

Well said, Mary.

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