I have to imagine some hacker out there already has the files, and maybe they're waiting for an opportune time (like when he's out of office and can face prosecution) to leak them
I will believe the files will be released at all when I see it. And, I will believe that Trump is found to be involved in either participating in sex with underage women, or condoning it, when I see it. Although I highly expect that is true, given the general contemptible and corrupt and immoral nature of the man, I think it also true that he will be very effective in covering it up. At least what Congress is involved in. Leakers and whistleblowers - I think we will have to rely on them.
For which next to nothing of consequence will happen. He would be just far enough removed to get away with it. Unless it changes a few more MAGA minds. Those "minds" are tough to change though.
I sincerely believe, deep down, that he will not be able to make it through amother year and definitely not for the next 3 years. Keep faith and hope alive, that the current regime's downfall is coming sooner than later.
Gradually I am hoping more middle of the road gop congressmen will be willing to save the govt and constitution. I guess we need to offer them matching or better crypto pay out pump&dump rewards??? than they all MUST BE SUFFERING UNDER NOW? ...if that's not the glue fixing their wagons to trump, what wtf is??? Are they all mentioned or on film at chez Epstein???
Come on. Maxwell already got pardoned. She went from maxim security to low security prison country club. Which is a glorified half way house. Getting delivered meals allegedly. So basically you’re saying Maxwell is like that scene in goodfellas when they’re eating steak and Lobster in jail. That’s rich. See I could get it and wouldn’t really be disgusted if she was in for tax evasion or something like that. But child sex trafficking???? This is the V.I.P. Treatment she’s getting??? She’s already been convicted. This is disgusting. A sex offender is getting this??? She’s getting better treatment allegedly than some of the women who are in there for low level crimes. What the actual fuck??? Why aren’t more folk in media talking about this??? Why would she want to get out? She’s in a V.I.P. Country club playing tennis and yoga. Everybody talks about the Pardon. Doesn’t this seem like the pardon? And then she’ll go back to her rich society. What would yall be saying if R.Kelly got that??? Same person right??? What a joke. It says that they don’t care about the victims. Like Maxwell allegedly said. We heard her on the tape. She said he did nothing wrong. So she got her nice country club. She knows what she’s doing. Alex Acosta gave Epstein that great deal. Did that seem fair? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know what’s going on. At this point we all can see what went on just by the way people are acting and deals they’re getting. It’s all disgusting.
at her prison club, but it will not get mentioned for a while at least til she flees to a country that doesn't extradite criminals ? Recently read Epstein transfered multiple of millions of dollars to Ghislaine before he died. 💰💰💰💰💰
"There were fractures of the left, the right thyroid cartilage, and the left hyoid bone," Baden said. "I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging."
"Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures," Baden said.
"It's my understanding, based on the documents that I examined, the two officers who were working in the Special Housing Unit allegedly falsified the records and did not do any rounds for approximately eight hours," Lindsay said.
"So, Epstein's taken off suicide watch, the day before he kills himself, his roommate is removed from the cell. The cameras on his tier are not working. The guards fell asleep. It seems almost impossible to think all of those things could happen in that way," Alfonsi said.
- 60 Minutes investigates the death of Jeffrey Epstein, January 5, 2020
Damnit but Donald and his tribe are turning us into conspiracy theorists of some sort. But I think he was offed in his cell. Purchasing a body double would be even more twisty so I don't think he is out there running free like a few commenters above.
We will not rest until the Epstein Files are released. There are over 1000 FBI Agents that had access to those Files back in April/May when Bondi directed them to redact Donald's name. There were no restrictions.I'm counting on a few whistle-blowers. Over 1K people had unrestricted access to those Files. Great article and commentary Mary. Thank you for covering this. My heart breaks for the Survivors. They are being traumatized over and over again. I hope Independent Media stays on this cover-up . Hopefully someone has "sources" to get access to the Files.
Yup, he pardoned *77* people who attempted to help him lie about the elections. But remember the howling when Joe Biden peremptorily pardoned some family members who would face his retribution? How he's torn this country apart!
Mary, serious question: Has Donald Trump ever had a friend other than Epstein? There's Roy Cohn, but he's usually described as Donald's mentor. And then there's... I can think of no one -- NO ONE -- who has been described as Donald's friend, other than Epstein. Can you?
If he does pardon her, she's a dead woman. She's a threat to too many powerful people. A loose end who might up her demands for her silence. Trump knows that because that's exactly his MO.
Or maybe she’ll quickly join Epstein at his secret, secure location and they’ll both be protected by Trump’s private militia. Then they’ll live happily ever after, while continuing their lucrative international child-trafficking business.
Don't lose your sanity! The Dems just had huge wins over the GOP, and we will likely take over the House and Senate in the midterms, and the presidency in '28.
He’s known Maxwell longer than Epstein. He’s got dementia; he could seriously think it’s a great idea.
Which won’t make this go away either, it’ll ramp it up. Every single decent human in this country will find doing that going way too far. It’ll be interesting to see
I have a hard time imagining that Trump will try to buy Maxwell's silence with a pardon or commutation. I know that he seems to be getting away with pardoning a lot of criminals these days, but Maxwell's case is so high-profile. Everyone in America knows about the crimes she committed with Epstein. So if he pardons her, it is almost like pardoning Epstein, and how many people in this country would be okay with that?
Gee, can we get 500,000 dollars for the “pain and suffering” retroactively that trumshit has done, like these Senass retards slipped into the bill just passed by 8 traitors of dummyrats bending like warm cheese puffs, to go for the retards only because their telephone numbers were supeoned years old but nothing else happened in regards to them.. what “ pain and suffering x
What is happening to America? The Genocide by Israel is condoned. The War Criminal gets the red carpet while Maxwell, the pimp, enjoys five-star prison comfort. MAGA is actually MIGA.
Should there be enough votes to force the release of the Epstein files, and should those files splay Trump out as a child sex addict, those Republicans who voted against the release will be crucified by the voters in 2026. So they need to think real hard before the train pulls out of the station.
"Trump's lawless cabal" will not be in control forever or even 1-2 more years. This I truly believe deep down in my soul. We are already seeing the demise of the conservative MAGA republicans now & into the foreseeable future. Millions of US people, right & left, already showed that by voting in unprecedented numbers in the 2025 Nov 4 elections. And, I firmly believe, that will be even greater in November 2026.
We ALL must keep showing that it is "WE, THE PEOPLE" that decide how we are to be governed not just the ultra rich.
You might be right, and everyone undoubtedly hopes you're right, but I view the Epstein file thing as a distraction from the fight for our democracy. The files (even if released in their entirety) aren't going to make trump's base turn on him and vote for Democrats. And what we need is to take back power from the corrupted government we're living under right now.
And too many people already know what's in those files.
Plus, this is now and will be, a supreme challenge every major & minor hacker in the world. The US government has already been hacked a few times so hackers know it can be done or already done so.
Unfortunately, everyone is currently too cautious to release anything until they feel safe. Just think of the recognition and highest honor & kudos they would receive.
WE MUST KEEP THE FAITH! WE MUST BELIEVE THAT TRUTH WILL WIN! If we don't, we, our friends families and neighbors, ARE DOOMED & will lose everything.
You know, Mary, I used to have hope that we would celebrate the day your criminal uncle would be led off to the nearest federal penitentiary. I know now that’s not going to happen. He’s going to pardon himself and every one of his criminal cadre. There is no equal justice under the law. The only thing I can hope for is that when the Epstein files are finally released, the MAGA morons will turn on him. I have to believe even some of the MAGAs will be horrified to find out what their cult master has been trying to hide.
If I'm not mistaken a new member of the House on being sworn in and taking their seat gives a short address. Ms. Grijalva should include in hers a description of Ms. Maxwell's prison conditions that you have so well laid out, plus of course stating that prospect of a pardon for her. I'm not American but my blood is certainly boiling.
The Epstein child trafficking ring was (is) an INTERNATIONAL organization. “Disgraced financier and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein did not grow his global sex trafficking enterprise on his own. He needed financial institutions to provide the financial underpinnings of his venture.”
This is a massive coverup of epic proportions that includes well-known kingpins in high places from all over the world, including the US and DC, who would be implicated. And DJT stand at the top. Which is why he considers himself as KING OF THE WORLD, why so many are bending the knee, why politicians, law enforcement, judiciary etc are complicit, why the government has been shutdown for weeks, and why mad dog, douche-bag Donny is so busy trying to distract everyone with chaos, fear, uncertainty, threats and mass destruction.
Maxwell WILL be pardoned because she does have dirt on the orange-faced disgrace, even though she told Trump’s criminal attorney (his role is so unethical!), Todd Blanche, on the DOJ’s July audio recording said that Trump was "a gentleman in all respects" and that she "Absolutely never, in any context,"saw him do anything inappropriate with anyone associated with Epstein.
I suspect she was being coached (maybe by notes?) during the audio recorded interview. If you’re going to record this particular interview on audio, then you might as well record it on video. It doesn’t make sense that Blanche only made an audio recording, rather than a video recording. That’s why the Maxwell interview is suspect in my mind.
I also suspect that Blanche may have known Maxwell had dirt on Trump before the recording. Maybe I’m wrong but the whole process is just so corrupt.
I haven’t heard or read the interview yet but have started to read it tonight. I do know there was about 6 hours recorded the first day and 3 hours on the second day.
Should she be pardoned, I hope the survivors sue, because it seems that abusing Presidential Pardon powers could somehow be challenged.
I have to imagine some hacker out there already has the files, and maybe they're waiting for an opportune time (like when he's out of office and can face prosecution) to leak them
Or what about MTG's "offer" to read the list on the floor? 🤷🏻♀️
There are two groups of hackers who has the files, Anonymous and Handala. Keep following as many files will be released soon
I'll believe it when I see it
I will believe the files will be released at all when I see it. And, I will believe that Trump is found to be involved in either participating in sex with underage women, or condoning it, when I see it. Although I highly expect that is true, given the general contemptible and corrupt and immoral nature of the man, I think it also true that he will be very effective in covering it up. At least what Congress is involved in. Leakers and whistleblowers - I think we will have to rely on them.
I think at the very least he knew what was happening and failed to report it
For which next to nothing of consequence will happen. He would be just far enough removed to get away with it. Unless it changes a few more MAGA minds. Those "minds" are tough to change though.
Even if he did the worst, I'm not convinced he'll ever face consequences. Like I say, I'll believe it when I see it.
Blondi is his servant
I often state the obvious
Yeah, right. They're just waiting for... what? A high enough payment?
I’m still waiting for the Grindr scoop on Mikey Johnson!
Maybe South Park ?
He cleans up kinda pretty, doesn't he?
That hope could possibly keep me alive for the next 3 years! TY!
I sincerely believe, deep down, that he will not be able to make it through amother year and definitely not for the next 3 years. Keep faith and hope alive, that the current regime's downfall is coming sooner than later.
Why would he not face prosecution even in office? He wasn't under immunity when he raped those children
Presidents are generally immune from prosecution while in office. That's why Jack Smith abandoned his case against DT right after the election
He needs to be impeached.
Impeachment is an empty gesture if he isn't convicted and removed from office. He's already been impeached twice.
Maybe a big Epstein reveal will be enough for that to finally happen, but as with most things related to DT going down, I'll believe it when I see it.
Yeah you are right about that
Gradually I am hoping more middle of the road gop congressmen will be willing to save the govt and constitution. I guess we need to offer them matching or better crypto pay out pump&dump rewards??? than they all MUST BE SUFFERING UNDER NOW? ...if that's not the glue fixing their wagons to trump, what wtf is??? Are they all mentioned or on film at chez Epstein???
They should have moved fast way before that point re any number of offenses.
Deep regret no one dared to start that probable civil war causing scenario
But who is to say how that might have been. Armedmegamagachatteris so bloodthirsty.
There's playing the long game and there's kicking the can down the road until it's someone else's problem
As in we prob don't have enuf blue militia if the can we are kicking down the road is a civil war ?
Thank you Mary
Come on. Maxwell already got pardoned. She went from maxim security to low security prison country club. Which is a glorified half way house. Getting delivered meals allegedly. So basically you’re saying Maxwell is like that scene in goodfellas when they’re eating steak and Lobster in jail. That’s rich. See I could get it and wouldn’t really be disgusted if she was in for tax evasion or something like that. But child sex trafficking???? This is the V.I.P. Treatment she’s getting??? She’s already been convicted. This is disgusting. A sex offender is getting this??? She’s getting better treatment allegedly than some of the women who are in there for low level crimes. What the actual fuck??? Why aren’t more folk in media talking about this??? Why would she want to get out? She’s in a V.I.P. Country club playing tennis and yoga. Everybody talks about the Pardon. Doesn’t this seem like the pardon? And then she’ll go back to her rich society. What would yall be saying if R.Kelly got that??? Same person right??? What a joke. It says that they don’t care about the victims. Like Maxwell allegedly said. We heard her on the tape. She said he did nothing wrong. So she got her nice country club. She knows what she’s doing. Alex Acosta gave Epstein that great deal. Did that seem fair? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know what’s going on. At this point we all can see what went on just by the way people are acting and deals they’re getting. It’s all disgusting.
Actually, she should watch her back. She’s at risk of being disappeared. No real Don would let a liability like that walk around.
We can only hope.
Yes, she will disappear on a secret flight to Greece or Israel. If she goes to either, that will mean Epstein is still alive.
Well ! THAT is even a more elaborate cover up of his supposed hanging.
Or
She will just walk off campus, Oopsie !
at her prison club, but it will not get mentioned for a while at least til she flees to a country that doesn't extradite criminals ? Recently read Epstein transfered multiple of millions of dollars to Ghislaine before he died. 💰💰💰💰💰
My very thought. Pardoned and out in the world? Will donny pay for 24/7 body guards?
Exactly!
"There were fractures of the left, the right thyroid cartilage, and the left hyoid bone," Baden said. "I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging."
"Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures," Baden said.
"It's my understanding, based on the documents that I examined, the two officers who were working in the Special Housing Unit allegedly falsified the records and did not do any rounds for approximately eight hours," Lindsay said.
"So, Epstein's taken off suicide watch, the day before he kills himself, his roommate is removed from the cell. The cameras on his tier are not working. The guards fell asleep. It seems almost impossible to think all of those things could happen in that way," Alfonsi said.
- 60 Minutes investigates the death of Jeffrey Epstein, January 5, 2020
Yup it adds up, doesn't it ?
Damnit but Donald and his tribe are turning us into conspiracy theorists of some sort. But I think he was offed in his cell. Purchasing a body double would be even more twisty so I don't think he is out there running free like a few commenters above.
But anything would be possible with his wealth.
We will not rest until the Epstein Files are released. There are over 1000 FBI Agents that had access to those Files back in April/May when Bondi directed them to redact Donald's name. There were no restrictions.I'm counting on a few whistle-blowers. Over 1K people had unrestricted access to those Files. Great article and commentary Mary. Thank you for covering this. My heart breaks for the Survivors. They are being traumatized over and over again. I hope Independent Media stays on this cover-up . Hopefully someone has "sources" to get access to the Files.
Yup, he pardoned *77* people who attempted to help him lie about the elections. But remember the howling when Joe Biden peremptorily pardoned some family members who would face his retribution? How he's torn this country apart!
Mary, serious question: Has Donald Trump ever had a friend other than Epstein? There's Roy Cohn, but he's usually described as Donald's mentor. And then there's... I can think of no one -- NO ONE -- who has been described as Donald's friend, other than Epstein. Can you?
If trump pardons Maxwell I will completely lose any sense of sanity.
If he does pardon her, she's a dead woman. She's a threat to too many powerful people. A loose end who might up her demands for her silence. Trump knows that because that's exactly his MO.
Or maybe she’ll quickly join Epstein at his secret, secure location and they’ll both be protected by Trump’s private militia. Then they’ll live happily ever after, while continuing their lucrative international child-trafficking business.
Don't lose your sanity! The Dems just had huge wins over the GOP, and we will likely take over the House and Senate in the midterms, and the presidency in '28.
It’s Trump.
He’s known Maxwell longer than Epstein. He’s got dementia; he could seriously think it’s a great idea.
Which won’t make this go away either, it’ll ramp it up. Every single decent human in this country will find doing that going way too far. It’ll be interesting to see
MY sanity has long been gone...
I have a hard time imagining that Trump will try to buy Maxwell's silence with a pardon or commutation. I know that he seems to be getting away with pardoning a lot of criminals these days, but Maxwell's case is so high-profile. Everyone in America knows about the crimes she committed with Epstein. So if he pardons her, it is almost like pardoning Epstein, and how many people in this country would be okay with that?
Means we push back harder
Gee, can we get 500,000 dollars for the “pain and suffering” retroactively that trumshit has done, like these Senass retards slipped into the bill just passed by 8 traitors of dummyrats bending like warm cheese puffs, to go for the retards only because their telephone numbers were supeoned years old but nothing else happened in regards to them.. what “ pain and suffering x
Like screaming and running thru the streets? AHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!! I am already contemplating that except I am not allowed to run anymore.
Thank you, Mary, for continuing to expose truth to light and amplifying the message of the cover-up scheme that continues to consume the lying GOP.
What is happening to America? The Genocide by Israel is condoned. The War Criminal gets the red carpet while Maxwell, the pimp, enjoys five-star prison comfort. MAGA is actually MIGA.
Should there be enough votes to force the release of the Epstein files, and should those files splay Trump out as a child sex addict, those Republicans who voted against the release will be crucified by the voters in 2026. So they need to think real hard before the train pulls out of the station.
Doesn't matter what the vote is. trump's lawless cabal is NEVER going to let those files see the light of day.
Just like his tax returns.
"Trump's lawless cabal" will not be in control forever or even 1-2 more years. This I truly believe deep down in my soul. We are already seeing the demise of the conservative MAGA republicans now & into the foreseeable future. Millions of US people, right & left, already showed that by voting in unprecedented numbers in the 2025 Nov 4 elections. And, I firmly believe, that will be even greater in November 2026.
We ALL must keep showing that it is "WE, THE PEOPLE" that decide how we are to be governed not just the ultra rich.
You might be right, and everyone undoubtedly hopes you're right, but I view the Epstein file thing as a distraction from the fight for our democracy. The files (even if released in their entirety) aren't going to make trump's base turn on him and vote for Democrats. And what we need is to take back power from the corrupted government we're living under right now.
And too many people already know what's in those files.
Plus, this is now and will be, a supreme challenge every major & minor hacker in the world. The US government has already been hacked a few times so hackers know it can be done or already done so.
Unfortunately, everyone is currently too cautious to release anything until they feel safe. Just think of the recognition and highest honor & kudos they would receive.
WE MUST KEEP THE FAITH! WE MUST BELIEVE THAT TRUTH WILL WIN! If we don't, we, our friends families and neighbors, ARE DOOMED & will lose everything.
You know, Mary, I used to have hope that we would celebrate the day your criminal uncle would be led off to the nearest federal penitentiary. I know now that’s not going to happen. He’s going to pardon himself and every one of his criminal cadre. There is no equal justice under the law. The only thing I can hope for is that when the Epstein files are finally released, the MAGA morons will turn on him. I have to believe even some of the MAGAs will be horrified to find out what their cult master has been trying to hide.
Dear leader will tell them it's fake news and they'll believe it.
Interesting that you mention a president pardoning himself. Is that a thing?
Honestly, I have no idea as to the legality of it. But, I have no doubt he’ll try.
If I'm not mistaken a new member of the House on being sworn in and taking their seat gives a short address. Ms. Grijalva should include in hers a description of Ms. Maxwell's prison conditions that you have so well laid out, plus of course stating that prospect of a pardon for her. I'm not American but my blood is certainly boiling.
The Epstein child trafficking ring was (is) an INTERNATIONAL organization. “Disgraced financier and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein did not grow his global sex trafficking enterprise on his own. He needed financial institutions to provide the financial underpinnings of his venture.”
This is a massive coverup of epic proportions that includes well-known kingpins in high places from all over the world, including the US and DC, who would be implicated. And DJT stand at the top. Which is why he considers himself as KING OF THE WORLD, why so many are bending the knee, why politicians, law enforcement, judiciary etc are complicit, why the government has been shutdown for weeks, and why mad dog, douche-bag Donny is so busy trying to distract everyone with chaos, fear, uncertainty, threats and mass destruction.
https://www.finance.senate.gov/ranking-members-news/as-trump-sits-on-key-epstein-files-wyden-lays-out-follow-the-money-investigation-for-doj
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/08/us/jeffrey-epstein-monday-court-appearance#:~:text=Epstein%2520knew%2520that%2520the%2520girls,girls%2520told%2520him%2520their%2520age.&text=The%2520indictment%2520also%2520implicates%2520some,expanding%2520web%2520of%2520new%2520victims.%E2%80%9D
https://www.complianceweek.com/case-studies/case-study-the-banks-behind-the-epstein-enterprise/34519.article#:~:text=Disgraced%20financier%20and%20convicted%20pedophile,financial%20crime%20fighters%2C%20and%20more.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/are-they-really-just-the-epstein
https://unlimitedhangout.com/
https://pc93.substack.com/p/the-alpha-and-omega-of-the-epstein
Yeah I bet Donald Trump is demanding her extra special treatment because she will blow the whistle on him if he doesn’t. What’s really going on?!
Maxwell WILL be pardoned because she does have dirt on the orange-faced disgrace, even though she told Trump’s criminal attorney (his role is so unethical!), Todd Blanche, on the DOJ’s July audio recording said that Trump was "a gentleman in all respects" and that she "Absolutely never, in any context,"saw him do anything inappropriate with anyone associated with Epstein.
I suspect she was being coached (maybe by notes?) during the audio recorded interview. If you’re going to record this particular interview on audio, then you might as well record it on video. It doesn’t make sense that Blanche only made an audio recording, rather than a video recording. That’s why the Maxwell interview is suspect in my mind.
I also suspect that Blanche may have known Maxwell had dirt on Trump before the recording. Maybe I’m wrong but the whole process is just so corrupt.
I haven’t heard or read the interview yet but have started to read it tonight. I do know there was about 6 hours recorded the first day and 3 hours on the second day.
Should she be pardoned, I hope the survivors sue, because it seems that abusing Presidential Pardon powers could somehow be challenged.
Just my 2 cents….
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Now! Release those files NOW!